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[film27]

If you build it they will come. I had a business partner that felt that if we bring in the best music people will come. Well that is true to a point but I think that they are the wrong type of people. We generally play house music and the people that came to our place payed the cover at the door but bar sales were flat. As promoters we generally ask for the door and none of the bar. So the owners were to too crazy with the fact the bar sales were lacking. So I came up with an idea to promote the party to women. Attractive, young business women that were looking for a place to have fun. Well after three weeks the bar sales has gone through the roof and the club owners are very pleased with us. My partner is not too crazy about it because he feels that all of the women bring in people that do not care for the music. What is your take on this situation?

In the Washington DC area I have came up with this conclusion. The best clientel for a club are: (judged by amount they drink at the bar, customer returning back to a club, no problems with violence ie: bar fights, and customer that generally respect your personnel and club. )

1. Gay White men and women
2. Young professional white/ european hetero men and women
3. Minority professional hetero men and women
4. Blue collar White men ana women
5. Minority blue collar men and women.

In your areas does this rule apply? What are your thoughts about my list of patrons in a club? Feedback of any kind is most helpful.

[Andrew]

I was wondering, do the numbers of your groups represent rank? Anyway, I can vouch for the gay crowd; they tend to be greatful for a safe environment to party in and I do see them reciprocate.

Never seen any trouble. Loyalty is there until something about their environment changes for the worse; then news spreads quickly and they move on.

The gay crowd does tend to party harder. Many have been persecuted and seek escape. Add that to a high disposable income with virtually no parental responsibilities.

The only real downside is that their drug use is usually higher and I believe that it comes from the low self-esteem associated with societal rejection.

This scene often also attracts lots of nice ladies (that us married straight boys ignore); they are there because they don't wish to be hit on by men all the time.

I am accepted into the gay scene because I love their music and the way it's mixed. We are all passionate about the music.

In my experiences, the gays make the *best patrons* (and the best friends). And they are so polite!

[JaneH]

about the women seeking a place away from the straight guys!

My friend and I actually were hanging out at a gay club to escape the annoying straight men last week! They play the best music and have the coolest atmosphere in the club too! Couches, music, the types of drinks and even a pool table - and in the back room they had kareoke - so my friend sang an aretha song and they adored her after that - white chick who can belt out aretha and sound awesome - not too common!

:p

[film27]

You agree with my initial comment? Would you say that the gay croud drinks more or should I say spend more at the bar?

[JaneH]

This scene often also attracts lots of nice ladies (that us married straight boys ignore); they are there because they don't wish to be hit on by men all the time.

That is the statement I agreed with. They even bought my friend and I drinks, talked shoes, clothes, hair, and makeup with us! lol It was great! And yes, i'd say they spend more.

[Andrew]

I cannot say that the gay crowd drinks any more than any other crowd, but I can say that bar-hopping (or pub-crawls as they are known here) is not practised.

Once this crowd finds a nice, safe groovy locale where it is OK to be gay or camp or whatever, then they tend to stay there for as long as possible (why mess with a good thing, right?!).