disclaimer verbiage

[ZEN]

greetings
i have an id checker machine that stores the customers info, and I need a disclaimer at the door of the club that states I will be taking the persons name and address and possibly mailing them future event info. Does anyone have the correct verbiage or legaleze for this?
thanx
zen

[happybaboon]

If you did that to me, I'd hit you. Or I just wouldn't come onto your premisis.

People don't want to be spammed. Period.

If you want to give people the option of receiving information about future events, don't make it a prerequisit of coming onto your premisis once. Make it something they CHOOSE to participate in by having them offer you their information, rather than by just taking it off them as a condition of entry.

I don't mean to sound like an asshole - But this sort of shit really pisses most people off. Don't do it.

[ZEN]

dude
take it easy. it's not like i'm selling the info to anyone. i take it and put it on excel and manipulate it to birthdate. then twice a month i mail out a birthday card to whoever has a birthday that month with a $5 gift certificate. i've been doing it for 2 years and nobody ever complained about it. i only want a disclaimer to protect myself.
zen

[djhush]

what i would do is have your door girl\door person (swipe ID) then say "can we save your personal info to mail you VIP promotions and information? and if they say yes\no keep there info or trash it, i agree w\ the 1st poster, that shit would piss me off

[David]

I appreciate your honesty Zen. By letting the patrons know what your intentions are, you will get numerous reactions. I tend to agree that my info is My Info. Most people don't realize that when you "swipe" their ID, all of the info is stored so that it can be downloaded at a later time. If you feel that you need a disclaimer, try something like this.

The information that is provided to us by your State Issued ID verifies that you are of Legal Age to patronize this establishment. It also allows us the opportunity to share future promotions and discounts with you via the postal address that is on your ID. IF you chose not to participate, please let the Manager or the Door Host know so that we many remove you from our list. We apologize in advance if this has offended you in any way. The data that we acquire is never sold, shared or used with any malicious intent.

Thank you for your help and understanding. Watch you mailbox for Exciting and Money Saving offers that will be headed your way soon.


This is just off of the top of my head. I'm sure that you can refine it to meet your situation.

Of course, I hate these little machines. They take away from the Professionalism that the Door Host should have. If you are a larger club and get large groups of people all at once, this will slow things down. I have seen these machines get duped more then once. I've used them and don't have the confidence in them that you and others do.

[Club Security]

Hello All,

Nice thought Zen. If someone doesn't want the info kept and they leave....O'well. Nearly all the machines on the market have the ability to extract and save data for mailing lists or other marketing junk.

Let me ask you a question... Is it legal to keep data from ID's in your state? In Texas it is illegal. In California it is illegal. Something to think about.

Posting a disclaimer might cause more trouble than it's worth. DJHush had the right idea. Taking a moment to talk to the customer about the data use does several things. Yes it will slow the line... and why is that a bad thing. Taking the time to talk to each and every customer, when you can, at the door is a great idea. You can see their level of intoxication, if they are tweeking, if they are in a fight with their boy/girlfriend.... whatever.

The machines are great and work even better. Simply by having them shows "Due Diligence" is a real good thing to be able to show to ABC or other cops.

Also, be prepared for the machines to grow,even taking over the door ID screening by using Biometrics. Within the next 2 years clubs will have this technology in use in larger clubs around the country.

I believe in the machines as long as the staff knows what they can do and can't do. Don't let the staff ever...ever get to used to them that they forget to check every ID manually anyway.

Good luck,

Robert
Nightclub Security Consultants