Bathroom Cost Question

[jammallnyte]

I am putting together a business plan for an investor. He is looking for my basic costs and I have put together, so far, about 90% of the costs. The one causing me the biggest headache is the bathroom. What can you guys tell me as to what it cost you? Nothing big. Maybe a couple of toilets in both men's and women's and a sink/countertop.

Thank you for you assistance.

Jamm

[excellentbars]

I am putting together a business plan for an investor. He is looking for my basic costs and I have put together, so far, about 90% of the costs. The one causing me the biggest headache is the bathroom. What can you guys tell me as to what it cost you? Nothing big. Maybe a couple of toilets in both men's and women's and a sink/countertop.

Hello Jammal

1-Is there already existing bathrooms?
This will make a huge difference in the price of the bathrooms as the services that are needed are in place....
2-Is there a sub-floor or a basement below the bathroom location
This is important to save money and time by allowing the plumbers to run the services to the bathrooms by coring the floor and not saw cutting and trenching the floor to get your plumbing in place....


I would recommend that the Bathrooms share a Plumbing wall= double framed wall with open channels for the plumbing and extra plywood backing to hold the fixtures and sinks to the wall.

Sharring a Plumbing wall will help to keep costs down as all the services will run into a shared common area...

You can save time and money sometimes by adding "Wall Hung toilets" this is so you do not need to saw cut and trench the floors.....

Depending on your venue I would recommend these options

1-Unisex toilets with Toilet and small vanity sink

2-Unisex bathrooms with communal sink area

3-Seperate Men's and Women's with a communal sink area

Why? This promotes social interaction with the patrons! Men can be Gentlemen and allow ladys to cut line or get them a towel or offer a chance to offer a complement on how nice they look!

Things you will need

-Mirrors-Full length for Women
-Purse hooks in every stall
-Trash Cans in every stall
-Large Tissue dispensers
-Drink holders
-Tile up to 6 ft on the back bathroom wall
-Metal or drywall with tile partitions
-2 large trash cans in the common area of the bathroom-This can be at the sinks but one MUST be at or near the exit door!
-FLUSH VALVE TOILETS these are a must!
-Strong sink handles and sink heads....These will take lots of punishment.

*Automatic flush systems are good and bad I prefer not to use them....Why? because I have had a situation that a customer had greese on his hand an wiped it on the sensor :mad: it would not stop flushing and eventually started to flood the toilet filled with *#^&^! already :(

"ADA" you will need only one ADA or Handicap toilet if you have communal bathrooms..You will need one for the Men's and One for the Women's if you choose that path...

Costs of these bathrooms, This is what I would but into one of my Budgets, I would look to have a swing of 20% max in either diffection depending on the market you are in "UNION!" ouch!

With Plumbing in place from and existing Bathroom
1-Plumbing, 6-8 Toilets,4 Sinks $20,000 Max
2-Flooring, Partitions, Wall Tile $8,000 Max


Without Plumbing in place from and existing Bathroom
1-Plumbing, 6-8 Toilets,4 Sinks $35,000 +/-
2-Flooring, Partitions, Wall Tile $8,000 +/-

Labor rates and Contractor fees will differ greatly State to State and Depending on how far it is to bring in the services to the bathrooms...

Here is one of my Unisex Bathroom Drawings

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x188/visual4464/RLDBATHROOM.jpg

Here is one of my drawings of Unisex bathrooms with a seperate communal sink area

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x188/visual4464/bathclose.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x188/visual4464/IMG_1450.jpg (http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x188/visual4464/IMG_1451.jpg)

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x188/visual4464/IMG_1451.jpg

Cheers

[rootsreality]

Are you talking about simply remodeling an existing bathroom or building from scratch? The previous response touches on issues for building out where bathrooms may not exist. Remodeling might entail more than you think at first glance.

Start by checking first with local health authorities and then with the city building department to determine what their requirements will be. The number of bathrooms or stalls may be mandated depending on your business occupancy limits. Here in California you must have specific types of wall coverings, flooring, etc. Stay on the basic fixtures side unless you have very deep pockets. That mean fiberglass or metal wall panels, seamless coved vinyl floors, wall hung sinks, etc. ADA and NSF compliant stuff adds to the cost as well.

Don't start any work until you have verified that the building plans and material choices will pass all the inspections. Provide brand names, model numbers, color samples, etc. when submitting plans for review. Not getting this stuff right can prevent you from opening.