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Coach
08-19-2008, 01:35 PM
Hello Gentlemen,

I just wanted to throw this out for feedback as an opportunity has brought itself to my attention while working on my gentleman's club.

There is a Motel that was recently purchased by two gentlemen and on this property sits a building that use to be a nightclub. This building is a little more then 12,000 sqft and sits less then 3 miles from a Div I big name college.

The two men who bought this property are in the motel business, however, they spent 2-300K refurbishing this club, redid everything, its really well done, but as I said they are in the motel business. The motel is slowing beginning its own renovation as well. They do not want to operate this club, but have been doing so 3 nights a week with live entertainment.

The club has two bars and has a capacity of 350 people with a performing stage and a full kitchen.

This is a total turn key project, licensing, stock, everything is in place. They want to lease out the business essentially for $10,000 a month, no CAM or other add-ons. i would be operating this club under a management agreement in the lease so I could operate immediately upon agreement to terms. No liquor board or city approvals needed.

From an initial investment standpoint this is extremely inexpensive to get into, however, I own no assets (less risk, but still a chance for a reward).

I have done some rough numbers on this club and at initial look it would be a solid 900K+ gross in a somewhat short period of time.

They have no preset requirements as to lease terms, they are completely flexible on the structure of the whole deal.

I was thinking about reducing the 10k/mo down to something like 7k/mo for the first say 6 mos, then making the last 6mos of a 5 year initial lease 13k which would make the total value of the lease the same, but also give me some growing room.


I just wanted to hear what other people had to say about this as it was not what I started out looking for, but it does look like something work looking pretty hard at and it probably will nto be available long, not with school getting ready to start.

Thoughts?.......

Michael Black
08-19-2008, 02:41 PM
From what I read, it looks like an unusual, but promising opportunity. We are not there to really know the exact market and situation- only you. This could be a very good deal IF you can make it work. Number one, get a great lawyer and an iron clad agreement here. There are many details to consider like renewal terms, improvements and new capital expenditures, name rights, liquor license ownership and responsibilities, employees, customers and potential lawsuits, dissolvement of any agreement, etc., etc.. If it were to do well, make sure your agreement locks you in and they cannot take it away from you or shut you down.I take it that you would not be doing a stripper club there? What area of Indiana would it be located?

MattN
08-19-2008, 06:33 PM
Do you have any previous experience. If not it sounds like a pretty good way to jump in. I would make sure you have outs, like you said reducing the price and maybe re-evaluating after 3-6 months.

Coach
08-19-2008, 06:41 PM
You are right in the fact that it would not be a strip club. In its current limited capacity it has been operated with music, some local college bands as well as a few national acts. I believe that it would probably be best to continue this as local college bands bring fans and friends with them.

Without disclosing to much information (I signed a non disclosure agreement), it is located outside of a college in Bloomington, Indiana.

I am also thinking that given that there is no real financial history to go off of that I propose a reduced monthly lease amount, say $5,000 for the first year and after that we will have atleast some sort of numbers to work from and we can do a sliding point scale starting from the $5k base. has anyone ever done a lease like that before?

Coach
08-19-2008, 06:42 PM
My personal background is in club management, be it nightclubs, bars, restaurants and currently country clubs.

David
08-20-2008, 12:50 AM
How about a percent of net instead of a monthly set lease amount? Can you lease the license from them legally? Most states won't let you do that. You can do a management agreement though.

If you don't mind, send me the contract and I'll look it over. I'll even sign a Confidentially Agreement to make it legal. Once I do that, I can give you my opinion.