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[Cluett20]

hey, a few of my freinds and i were wanting to open up a night club once we all get out of college with our degrees of course, but we were thinking of a beach theme, does anyone on here have any insight for me on this idea? and if anyone has any info they would like to share about opening a night club, id really apreciate it

Thanks.

Robbie Cluett:)

[David]

Come on people. Read the posts on the site that pertain to your questions. Use the serch engine. My patience is running thin when it comes to these types of questions. At least three this week alone.

We are not here to guide you through your education of the business. We are here to help you once you have made the decision to get into the business.

These general questions of "I want to open a successful bar" are a waste of our time and talent. Now, if you want to hire one of us to do all of the work for you, we can do that. Get off your keisters and pound the pavement not our pud's.

I apologize to those that frequent this site for real life questions and answers. Please excuse my random acts of explosion. I'm just really tired of these type of question.

[ministry]

david, a little abrasive - i like that.

[Ekguy]

At the risk of actually making a helpful suggestion, maybe one way to deal with this problem (someone asks "How do I start a bar?" 37 other folks post replies berating them) is for the powers that be to create a special folder/area/etc. called "On Opening a Bar". That way, newbies can ask their questions, those of you who don't want to read said questions can ignore that section, those of you that want to be helpful can comment and all of the info can be in one place (rather than telling folks "read the other posts" which are scattered through the board).

Or you all can just keep yelling at the newbies....either way is fine with me.

:D

[The Event Guy]

Fart..:.::..:Burp...fffFffirt. OOOOOoooops! I think I shit my pants!


That what these questions make me do. Please....sstop asking, I'm running out of boxers.

[SHOTSKI'S]

Ekguy,

That's why you get paid the big bucks...
Not a bad idea.

[Cluett20]

yeah, with what u typed out to me in ur response u could have said somthing helpful, i asked that question cause i thought u guys wanted to encourage people to start thier own clubs, from the looks of it, u guys are trying to make it as hard as possible for someone new to open one, i dont get it. besides i was also asking everyone what they thought of the Beach theme idea for a club, with a dancefloor that is a plexiglass surface over a pool of water? sorry that i didnt look through every one of the 2000 posts on the board to make sure this question wasnt asked before:mad:

[Cheek]

A beach theme idea is always a good one.

I like ekguy's idea. Make a sticky thread about opening new bars and we will all put helpful stuff in it, then when someone comes on we will just direct them to that.

put the questions in the main post like an FAQ and then the areas can be addressed in the following responses. For example:

1. How do I get financing for my bar?
2. How or where do I get a business plan?
3. What are some of the risks of opening a bar?
4. What size building should I be looking for and how do I calculate seating capacity?
5. What are some themes or ideas that are popular?
6. How much money does it take to open a nightclub?
7. How much does a liquor license cost and how do I get one?
8. What kind of insurance will I need and where do I get it?

I'm sure there are more but those seem to be common ones that are asked over and over. If Dave were to compile a list of questions FAQ style, then all the members here could add their 2 cents and we will never have to answer another "I wanna start my own club..." thread again
:D

[hardcoreearth]

Before I tell you what I have seen work in a beach club, let me tell you that each area or location is different and only good market research will help you decide if your area is ripe for the picking to use your ideas. Now, to answer your question, there are a lot of benefits and disadvantages to owning a beach club.

Advantages:

1) GOOD LOCATION: There are usually a lot of businesses right along the beach and hotels are usually abundant at the beach.
2) DAYTIME VENUE: I have seen clubs next to the beach open during the day and bring in business as people pass by. Hosting events (bikini contest, volleyball tournaments, etc...) helps to increase the attendance. Then at a specific time (around 6 pm) close the club up to allow the staff to clean up and prepare for the real reason you are there. By staying open during the day you have advertised for the night and your attendance will go up.
3) UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT: If the location you choose does not already have a nightclub at the beach, you have just found a niche in the market that will not easily be copied. This is important because it gives you something to stand out from the crowd.

Disadvantages:

1) NATURAL DISASTERS: Being next to the beach leaves you open to natural disasters. Therefore you will need all kinds of natural disaster insurance. I have seen great clubs go down for several months after a hurricane hit. If you were hit at the startup of the nightclub, you would soon be hit by a hurricane of debt!
2) HIGH LEASES: With great location comes a cost. If your going to pay a high price for location make sure your research shows that the potential for business is worth it! If one you or your friends have a degree in business/accounting then it shouldn't be a problem projecting your financial situations.
3) PARKING: Most beachside property do not leave much room for parking. Hotels on the beach allow many customers to walk to the nightclub, but expect a bottle neck at the parking lot. With the price of beachside lot, it will be hard to afford a lot of space near the beach (if there is any to be purchased) but some places I have seen by the beach did have plenty of space. Depending on your financial situation, this could be good or bad. Customers do not like to be discouraged by something as simple as parking.

I think I have taken enough space, but I hope this helps. This is just a kicker to get you think along the lines that may not be as obvious. Good luck.

[David]

Ok Ok. When I get time, I'll try and set up a Subject area that deals only with Startups.

If I sounded abrasive, it's because I was. If I had a Nickle for every time someone on the site or in my private business asked the question, I'd be a Gazillioniar.

I know that we are here to help. But, let's face it, the answer to the question in everywhere on the site. So what if you have to search through 2000 posts. You're looking for answers right? By the comment that was made, do you think that there is only one correct answer?

Robbie, don't take it personal. I've been really busy with work and the site. Not to mention lining up appointments in Vegas at the show.

Repost but be more specific.

[Ekguy]

My last word on this subject:

REMEMBER -- All of you successful club owners were once starting up your first club and had a million questions. In fact, you probably hounded some club owner asking them your million questions. And that club owner probably had heard that same question a gazillion times too. And they probably thought "God...what a freaking moron thinking they can open a club!"

So maybe we can all be a little more tolerant of the newbies and maybe the newbies can actually think about their questions before asking them.

But what the hell do I know?

[The Event Guy]

Originally posted by Cluett20
yeah, with what u typed out to me in ur response u could have said somthing helpful, i asked that question cause i thought u guys wanted to encourage people to start thier own clubs, from the looks of it, u guys are trying to make it as hard as possible for someone new to open one, i dont get it. besides i was also asking everyone what they thought of the Beach theme idea for a club, with a dancefloor that is a plexiglass surface over a pool of water? sorry that i didnt look through every one of the 2000 posts on the board to make sure this question wasnt asked before:mad:


You're right...but, you do have to research this question and it doesn't take reading 2000 posts, it takes the understanding of what your looking for and scanning through the topic headlines. Research is the main priority and if you do it well chances are you'll be successful because there's no know-all, step by step book on how to do this. Ask lots of questions on this board (aside from the general question of this post) and you'll gain valuable insight to this industry. But, understand that it took many of these people years of sacrifice and dedication to be owners and proprietors so getting an answer as to "how to" open a club isn't that cut n' dry, ya know?

Beach Theme? Eh...it works well, but it depends on lots of things i.e. typre of people, location, local trends, et.etc. Themes are only good once a month if not bi-monthly -IMO- otherwise, it gets cheesy. And when that happens you've got to reformat so what's the point of opening in the first place.

You've either gotta have a great niche or the ability to be a chameleon in this business...

[Cheek]

Originally posted by Ekguy
My last word on this subject:

REMEMBER -- All of you successful club owners were once starting up your first club and had a million questions. In fact, you probably hounded some club owner asking them your million questions. And that club owner probably had heard that same question a gazillion times too. And they probably thought "God...what a freaking moron thinking they can open a club!"

So maybe we can all be a little more tolerant of the newbies and maybe the newbies can actually think about their questions before asking them.

But what the hell do I know?

Actually, I worked in a club for years before I ever thought about purchasing my own. So I really didnt have too many questions. That's why I always tell people if you wanna know what it takes to open a club, work in one for awhile.

[DeeInLondon]

Originally posted by Cluett20
hey, a few of my freinds and i were wanting to open up a night club once we all get out of college with our degrees of course, but we were thinking of a beach theme, does anyone on here have any insight for me on this idea? and if anyone has any info they would like to share about opening a night club, id really apreciate it

Thanks.

Robbie Cluett:)


Before you guys invest your cash in buying a place why don't you try working in the industry. Why not try promoting to begin with .. that's what I'm doing at present. I worked with a friend and got 152 people on a guest list for Valentine's Eve.

I'm starting to put on an event in London for people to go to every two weeks.

If you buy a bar or nightclub you've got to keep attracting peole to the smae venue, day after day .. if you promote clubs yo can bemore flexable.