New club opening

[crax]

Hi guys, im new here.

Im opening a night club soon but since i never been into a club can you give me a general idea of what i need.

I know i need lights,sound,dj/music,bartending. Did i miss anything? I have a 1/2 million dollar budget on this club and i want to make it best in the town(medium size town, 2 bars)

Its going to be a 2 floor club the first floor is dancing while the second floor requires a 21+ band to get into the bar area.

What are some cool things i can buy? I was thinking of having a dancer's stage on both sides of the DJ - Is that cool? do other clubs have something like that?(No nudity btw, just dancers).

What drinks can i sell? Is it possible to hire people to install the lighting for you? I was thinking of adding a Limo service - 10$ for a group to and from the club(mainly for advertisment reasons) is that okay? over dueing it?

Please give me some great ideas.

[The Event Guy]

:rolleyes: ARE YOU SERIOUS? I hope not because this post is rediculous...

I'm sorry, but how could you possibly get a half million to open a club IF you've NEver been in one? Who in their right mind would loan you the money and why?


Please, tell me this is just a spoof? Where are you from?

[The Event Guy]

OK, I had to get that remark off my chest, Crax...

Go back and read some past topics placed around the board by some 1st time owners, managers, bartenders, whatever...it'll give you some insight as to what you'll be getting yourself into. And if you don't there are plenty of referrences as to where to start.
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[crax]

My family member gave our family 50 million. I got 20 million saved in a bank account and i got 1 million now. Im willing to put 1/2 of that into a club.

[ministry]

hey what is the easiest way to have a million dollars in the club business without knowing a thing ?........ start with 2 million ! keep you cash and move to miami ! believe us you do not want to be in the club business if you have never even been in a club- what are you 16 ?

[crax]

Okay...why am is everyone being so rude? I already have the place designed im just looking for additional cool/money makers. I bought 50,000$ in lights and lasers so far(foam machine,2 bubble machines, 1 confette machine, 2 fog machines)

[BCreten]

Crax,

I dont think that everyone is really being rude at all! They are just trying to express to you that there are a million things that can go wrong in a club and they are just trying to save you money in the long run. I would suggest this... Find someone who needs financial help with opening a bar/club... someone who has experience in the business especially and just back them. Get in there and get your feet wet! Learn to be a bar back.. learn to bartend, DJ, and all of the other jobs that are in a bar... Then learn how to manage the place! You should do this for at least one year (this would be a crash course as well!!). Then and ONLY then should you try to go out onto your own and start from scratch and open a club/bar! If you dont follow the advise everyone on here is giving you, you might as well take your 1/2 million and give it to someone, let them kick you in the nuts, and call it a day! That's how it will be! There are people who have worked in the industry forever then decided to go out on their own to fulfill their "dream" and have lost everything! We are just trying to warn you and not let this happen to you! Please take the advise of the people who have been in this industry for a while and dont just blow your money away without knowing exactly what you're getting into!

NOW... If you are interested, I know someone who is needing financial backing for a commercial business remodel! They are needing approximately $200k to remodel a three story (w/basement) commercial building. He plans to put 4 apartments on the top two floors and a bar/club on the main floor. He owns the building but is having a hard time getting a loan to remodel it. Would you want to work out some type of financing deal with him? I would say that this is a much safer proposition! Get with a lawyer, draw up some papers using the building as collateral and give a remodel loan with interest. If you're interested, I can put you in touch with this person.

Anyhow, I hope this information helps you out! I dont think it was anyone's intent to be rude to you.. I just think they are trying to warn you not to jump into "shark-infested waters".
Brian

[steffen]

Crax -

No one is being rude. Everyone is being honest.

If you really want to learn more about how to make money as a bar/nightclub owner, you should (and we can not stress this enough) WORK in one first. From the way that the thread is going.... if you haven't been in a club, and you're actually in Texas... something is wrong. Are you 21? If you're not, then forget it. No state in the US will give you a liquor license. I doubt that a state would give someone you "gave or lent" the money to either, because you're (assuming you are) under-age.

If you want to go out and buy $50,000 in lights, foggers and bubble machines, cool. Go ahead, the economy needs people spending money and I'm glad to see that you are helping the economy... but why start a business that you know little to nothing about? Isn't that setting yourself up for failure? Why set yourself up for failure, when it's much more fun to be successful? If you don't know anything about this industry, I'm sorry to say, you won't last long in it, thus wasting your money.

Check out these posts... We're not being rude to you, we're being honest.

Post #775 (http://www.nightclub-business.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=775)
Post # 777 (http://www.nightclub-business.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=777)

If you decide to go through with this, best of luck to you! If you have any specific questions, please feel free to post them.

[kmoney]

Or you can alwys look into hiring someone 'in the scene' to help you out...

...one piece of advice first: get all your permitting taken care of before you start up. I have seen situations just like this where clubs have been shut down because they didn't have such things as a 'dancefloor' or 'dj' permit. Take liquor law classes. Understand you liability as a club owner before you get into it. If you don't know what your doing you 1/2 million dollar club can turn into a 20 million dollar club on your first night.

[Trance_matt074]

crax- another piece of advice, in this business a little experence goes a long way. I agree with everyone, Yes! go out and work at a club, see how they do things. The first week I worked I learned more than every week I spent doing research on the web. We can't tell you what to do. you should learn it yourself.

Good Luck, and keep posting!

[eddiemullan]

I agree with above. Crax no-one here is rude. On forums most people are (brutally) honest and take the "cruel to be kind" stance

[crax]

Originally posted by kmoney
Or you can alwys look into hiring someone 'in the scene' to help you out...

...one piece of advice first: get all your permitting taken care of before you start up. I have seen situations just like this where clubs have been shut down because they didn't have such things as a 'dancefloor' or 'dj' permit. Take liquor law classes. Understand you liability as a club owner before you get into it. If you don't know what your doing you 1/2 million dollar club can turn into a 20 million dollar club on your first night.

We bought 10 acres of property, got license for the club. Thanks for not being so rude. I have been 2 in bars not clubs, I have hired a guy from a DJ lighting place to tell me how it runs, i have hired some other guys to run the lighting and bought controllers to control the lighting. Right now i have 8 strobe lights all around the dance floor,1 sky laser,4 intelligant lighting,4 another model of intellingent lighting,the machines i listed in my other post( i have 2 fog machines built into the dance floor) (just a FYI, i have bought alot more lights but i dont even know what they are called some are just color we also got a huge disco type mirror ball). We have thought of "The Flame" as the club name so we bought 12 hanging flame lights. Right now as of the opening we wont have the second floor open(bartending) so no need for liqior license yet. I have been featured on the local news paper and to this town, the club is exciting. I bought 1 limo and right now its being fixed with decals(small advertisement on the side with flames). The limo service will be 10$ for a group of 5+ people. We have spent thousands on a high-tech arcade on the side.

[eddiemullan]

i think i speak for all when i say good luck crax! i also speak (probably) for all when i say i wish we all had that amount of money to put into a club.

sounds good. dont trust people too much you dont know.

[J.T.]

I noticed you are in Texas. What part? (Big state I know. Just curious)
Some venues work well in certain areas, others don't. A dance club in Dallas or Houston can be a big hit while the folks Amarillo or Abilene might just look at you funny.
I've seen some really huge companies make some incredibly stupid moves in Texas because they never considered the marketplace. Even if "Billy Bob" comes in your club one night and says, "Hey, this here looks like wunna them big city discotechnawhatevers" Chances are, he'll be back in the country music dive he's used to the next week.
I've been designing clubs for years and to tell you the truth, there is no way in hell I would ever run one. If you haven't ever managed a club before, hire someone who has. Hire more than one. There is sooooo much more to it than you think. Inventory alone will be enough to make you pull your hair out. You can make it work out just fine if you have some really deep pockets and surround yourself with the right people.

[The Event Guy]

THE FLAME? :rolleyes: I'm sorry Crax, but I'm just having a little fun with you...


Do NOT call your club "The Flame." Please don't do that. And do NOT tell the people you are looking to hire how much money that you have. Act like you know what you're talking about - to an extent, at least, otherwise you're gonna get taken for a ride.

8 strobes seem like a bit much, friend...but it may work in this place - I dunno. But lights only work when you have someone with the experience and knowledge to operate them. If you're spending a lot of money on them, then make sure they can be operated correctly or else it's a waste of money.

I like the limo idea, but only $10 a ride? That's cool, but make sure you're making a little nit of scratch for the club by doing so. You'll also need insurance on this limo. You could also save the limo service for loyal patrons whom spend a nice chunk of change, ya know? Or run some kind of promotions with it such as a pick up/ drop off service to a few groups a night, but don't over burden yourself with trying to accomodate everyone. Soon enough people will be asking how they can get a ride in the limo.

I think JT sumed it up by saying to surround yourself with the right people - that's the tricky part.

What type of club are you building anyway? What kind of people are in this area that you're going to attract?

[crax]

Thanks for the luck.

I have 1 Black limo for 10+ people, It will be 10$ to and from service for all 10 or 2 min people. The same guy doing the lighting seting said he would like to lighting control since the dj has alot to control this way i can pay a seperate person to do good lighting effects instead of having a dj trying to do both music and lights..

The dance floor is at 0ft, while the sitting areas around it are 2ft high. This was made for foam - on our special foam nights the foam wont escape from the dance floor. Also on the bottom of the 2ft platform for tables there are 2 fog machines on each side.

The people in this town need something cool like this, trust me. If hanging out at Wal-Mart is cool...what about a place to dance with music and a high-tech arcade?

I want to try and get 15yrolds+ people in there since there is going to be a arcade on the side and the top floor will be only for beer which you need to a band to get into. but ill go by the rules and hopefully they will allow 15+yr olds.

I think The Flame is a good name to theme it as fire. anyone else have suggestions?

I need a name on where i can theme it on(i already got 20 hanging fire lamps but i can easily return them)someone said Cubix and have cube things like cube chairs and tables but...i dont think so.

[J.T.]

I can't tell you how much you DON'T want to call your bar "Flame". If you are really stuck on flames, call it fuego. (spanish for fire....you're in Tejas...they'll get it) Heat, Torch, Volcano, Hades, Dragon's Breath, Fahrenheit 451, I'm feelin' hot, hot hot. (Oh...sorry...lapsed into a Buster Poindexter tune there. I'll be OK in a minute)

Anything but "Flame". If you call it "Flame" or "The Flame" you're probably going to end up with a gay bar without intending to do so. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, Seinfeld fans)
If you build it they will come.....sheesh! I can't believe I said that.
ANYWAY!
If I was just some fat guy in Texas, which I am, driving down the road, chompin' on a Big Mac and saw a club named "flame", my first though would be: Hmmm....not sure if my door swings that way.
I've seen a club open up and be a gay bar when nobody ever even thought of it. It just happened. It made tons of money and it turned to be a really profitable run and VERY popular, but still unintentional.

[crax]

Yea, Well said.

I wasnt really liking the flame anyway i started to think some people might be dumb and call it "Lame" instead of "fLAME".Nice suggestions though anymore?

Also i was thinking of having a high-priced rental service of the club. Maybe for a party? Im still not sure on that because i'll lose business and whatnot but again, its going to run at least 3000$ till 1am

[The Event Guy]

LMAO:D Very funny post JT...I said the same thing about "The Flame." LMFAO...now I'm just laughing when I say it..."The Flame." HAHHAaaa.LMFAO. See, there I go again.

You've got to name it after the enviornment of the club...just not, "The Flame." LMAO:cool: :D Sorry.

Wheeeew. Ok. so it seems that you have a very...well...diverse crowd. Aiming it at a very wide demo. You NEED to be careful. Do you really want 15 year old kids hanging around a bar with drunken, perverted men - and women in some instances?

That says LIABILITY all over it and I don't care how many doormen you've got. It's a problem. You'd have to seperate these demographics on totally seperate nights-IMO- and/or different times.

Overall, it sounds like a High-Energy enviornment, cheap beer, cheap cover, cheap patrons. This is all fine because it'll be a high turnover ratio. Just be careful with what you combine in order to reach your goals because it may come back to bite your ass.

[crax]

Thats why security will remove anyone doing anything stupid like graffiti and may be banned from the club. If 15 year olds cant act mature enough then ill slowly increase it.

[kmoney]

I see you're direction with the flame deal and having the flames around inside the bar. But I have to side with other comments here, calling it the Flame is almost as bad as hanging a rainbow flag outside (unless you are going into the gay scene).

Maybe try another name that is related, but not so....gay (as in queer). Hey - if you did call your club 'Flame' you could call your door people 'Flame Throwers.'

Maybe try 'Heat' or 'Pyro' or the "Combustion Room', maybe get some dry ice machines and call it 'Fire & Ice.' Remember, Alchohol burns. I don't know. It take sm e forever to come up with a good name because I feel that along with a good name needs a good logo.

[crax]

Very nice..Im still thinking about Heat. I like it. I think Club Volanco exists in San Antonio(texas) so i cant do that. Even though i like it.

[J.T.]

Actually it's called Joe's Volcano. I did that club several years ago. The front sign won an award or two though. Sure has been a while.
Click here for a picture of the entrance (http://www.jt-graphicdesign.com/photos/fs001.htm)

[J.T.]

oops...IMG code is off.

[The Event Guy]

Originally posted by crax
Thats why security will remove anyone doing anything stupid like graffiti and may be banned from the club. If 15 year olds cant act mature enough then ill slowly increase it. :rolleyes:

OH, lordy, lordy, lordy...you aim to learn the hard way.

[David]

Is this post for real?????

If so, can I borrow a Million Dollars? I'll show you what I can do.

[Cheek]

no kidding. I know a good consultant *cough* me *cough*

[SHOTSKI'S]

This has to be one of the most humerous threads of all time.

J.T. - The Event Guy - I was laughing so hard over your replys that my son asked me why I was crying. It still took about 5 minutes to finally answer him.

crax: I am not directing that laughter at you or your questions, just the wording of some of the replys.

Before I moved to Arizona, I lived in Texas for many years. I've been all around that state and your comment about how everyone hangs around at Walmart made me think of an earlier question someone asked: What city is your club going to be located in? I'm not saying that there is a certain size city to make a concept like this work, I was just wanting to see where I need to party when going back to small town Texas.

One more question: With all that money, what made you decide to open up a club? Is this a city you have lived in and want to build what you/others have always wished the city had?

By the way: Fire & Ice gets my vote for the name. That was a good one. Fire attracts attention - Dry Ice is a facination point for the 15 year olds, and drunk people who are easily entertained (me). The Flame (I heard someone laughing) concept would not be good. My thoughts were right there with everyone who commented. Here in Phoenix we have a bar named The Back Door. I lived here for years before I realized it was just a sports bar... simply stated: The name prevented me from ever going.

Good luck my man,.

I still question the...

[ministry]

oh boy where do i start ! i havn't checked this in a few days and i can't believe what this has turned into. first crax forget the flame name thing. it says gay. don't just spend to spend. you say you have lights that you don't even know what they are ? does anyone else here think this guy is just making up stuff as he goes along and is full of crax ? i just think he is trying to string us all along and wants to get a rise out of us! that's my opinion and i'm done. oh ya crax i'll come run your club for 200k a year :cool:

[crax]

Yes, I wish i had this when i was a teen.

Now, I know people will go to the club. I just need to know what my club needs to do to allow 15+yr olds in the club. I dont want 12yr olds running around and acting stupid but 15 yr olds dont have proof of being 15. What should i do to restrict kids from going in? Again, if 15yr olds cant act mature ill raise it slowly.

[SHOTSKI'S]

Change the age from 15 to 16 and require a DL or state ID.

Where are you putting your club?

[Andrew]

Fire and Ice? I like it BUT not as a teen club name. Younger people shoudn't play with "fire" and "ice" is the street name of a drug. I don't think it is appropriate but maybe I am being too conservative.

[chapel]

Ok to limit it by the age of 15 is going to be difficult. The closest thing I can even romotely think of working is working with all the high schools in the area and offer them some sort of good attendance/grades incentive thing. Any student in your age range is eligible, but the school needs to have some sort of official school ID.

This is something you will have to talk to them about, a photo school ID... If you really want to go about the trouble then I would say pay for the students IDs (you do have half a million to work with) and let the school do the work of making sure the proper age group gets them. Tell the school that for the trouble one day of each month the school can have a 'free' day at the club. A local Roller skating rink does this, but without the IDs (cause obviously anyone is let in).

The school IDs from the monthly promo will be their only way to enter the club from that point on. If they don't have the school ID then they don't enter. The monthly promo will be a good marketing ploy, and the 'free' day don't need to be 100% free... If you have arcade style games they are still charge as is food and drink. So the only thing you miss out on is a cover charge.... however if you don't do a cover charge then you better set aside so much inventory and let the school know that inventory is free.

Hmm... my only thought on how to keep 15+ in, and everyone out. There goes that anyhow... as for everything else you are going to have to do the research yourself.... most of the things you asked are personal preference. Does your target market think dancers on the side of the DJ are a good idea? Do a focus group if you have to, but find out what your target market wants... since they are who you are aiming for, not what everyone else's target marketing is going for (cause David's target market is women, who like chip'n'dales and good times... I doubt the majority of your customers would be into that).

After all, the nightclub/bar business does work like most business (unless of course you are talking inventory, staffing, music, lights, sound, design, etc...). My business plan includes a target market, I did a focus group on my target market and asked what they would like to see in a club, since they are the ones who will be visiting. That is what I would do in almost any business... based on the focus group you should get an idea of what kind of design will work for you... not for me.

Hmm... moving on now, since this post is already gonna be huge. Well good luck if your serious, you already got a btter start than I do... I am still in the funding stages.

[crax]

Very Nice. Thanks for the post.

I know the high school gives student IDS. Some 9th graders are 14-16 so i guess their student id will be a "pass".Good idea about the drivers licence at 16 but most teens get their final DL at 17. They have a permit for like 6 months.

Again, The side arcade will be open to the public im not sure if were giving prizes for tickets.

I have thought of way to promote the club:
In the summer we will have Foam nights from 8-11 or something on select days. Sometimes we will have techno/dance days and we will give free glowsticks(probably give like 500 for the first people who show). We have 5 local radio stations(we should have more for the size of this town) and they have cheap advertising(hey maybe i should open a good radio station for teens and advertise the club all the time =)). We can have disco nights i have bought a pretty huge disco ball. Also Im trying to get lighted tile floor on the dance floor. Maybe after graduation night were you get in free with your diploma? and after prom nights.Anymore Ideas?

Fire & Ice sounds like a good name, but since im trying to design the club for teens i think Club Heat sounds good plain and simple. I'm also getting plastic tubes built into the corners of the club and random areas with that fake material that looks like fire instead of the bubble lamps. Wait, I just got a idea. If i call it Fire & Ice i can theme the bottom floor Fire(heat) and the top floor Ice. Anyway whatever i do decide to call it i'm getting the club signs ect last.

I spent too much time on the first floor i have not even started working on the second floor, the alcohol. Now im still trying to think of ideas how i can keep the club in a safe environment at the same time please the 21+ year olds. I was think of having a limit on drinks or maybe keeping the drinks only on the second floor. Any ideas? The top floor is going to have see-through tile in random areas. No pool tables since thats going to be in the arcade.

Im also thinking of allowing people to rent the club's bottom floor for sweet 16's or maybe birthday partys. Maybe starting at $3,000 for 5 hours(1 place in town does this for 2,000 and its really a cheap, dirty place but popular for these). Just for the club, no dj but the sound and lighting will be included like always.


Status: We bought the property and got the club's location approved. They have started to build the club/arcade 1 week ago but after rainy days it has caused some delays.

Also, Im still gathering up a dress code. Since its part teen club im trying to get a very light code. No Baggy Clothing is probably my only rule.

Oh and why do some clubs restrict blue jeans and tennis shoes?

[The Event Guy]

Originally posted by ministry
oh boy where do i start ! i havn't checked this in a few days and i can't believe what this has turned into. first crax forget the flame name thing. it says gay. don't just spend to spend. you say you have lights that you don't even know what they are ? does anyone else here think this guy is just making up stuff as he goes along and is full of crax ? i just think he is trying to string us all along and wants to get a rise out of us! that's my opinion and i'm done. oh ya crax i'll come run your club for 200k a year :cool:

2nd that!:cool:

[The Event Guy]

Originally posted by Andrew
Fire and Ice? I like it BUT not as a teen club name. Younger people shoudn't play with "fire" and "ice" is the street name of a drug. I don't think it is appropriate but maybe I am being too conservative.

Not too conservative. Responsible.:D

[The Event Guy]

Originally posted by crax
Yes, I wish i had this when i was a teen.

Now, I know people will go to the club. I just need to know what my club needs to do to allow 15+yr olds in the club. I dont want 12yr olds running around and acting stupid but 15 yr olds dont have proof of being 15. What should i do to restrict kids from going in? Again, if 15yr olds cant act mature ill raise it slowly.

Crax,

At first I thought you were a legitimite person looking to invest their inherited money into an industry that has the possibilities of making some good revenue even though you have no idea about this industry. Now, after reading the above quote, I just think you're an idiot and don't deserve the right to open a club because you're making a mockery of industry people's livelyhood. This topic should be in the TEEN area. Think about what youi stated...what 15 year old is mature? I know 40 year olds that aren't mature.

Anyone with half a brain can tell you that teens and alcohol DO NOT MIX - EVER! Not only for legal issues and liabilities, but for morality issues.

I'm sorry, but no teen needs to be at a club, it is an adult world - 18+. As an adult, people are supposed to make responsible decisions in their daily lives...but we're all human and we all make mistakes. Sometimes horrific mistakes that take other people's lives. And by combining such an atmosphere just to give teens "a place to be" is an absolute abuse of power and evil. Yes, I said it- EVIL. Why? Because it's about money, not the kids!

If it isn't about money, than take the 20mil that you've supposedly inherited and set up an appointment with your state governor and/or city mayor and discuss building a teen youth center:mad: Hold dances, recitals, plays, teach music, art, and culture!!! Have bakesales for God's sake, but whatever you do use the money that you have responsibly instead of trying to reclaim your teen years and combine them with the adult world because it doesn't work. It's called CHILD ABUSE.

As an adult, you should know better! Foolish-actually talking about ID's for 15 year olds...

And I'm ranting on like a jerk, but, C'mon now...how can anyone answer this topic seriously anymore? It's common sense, Crax.

AGAIN, if you want to open a club targeting teens in order to get them from "...hanging out at the local Walmart..." then do it where you may have a distinct, POSITIVE impression that helps mold the minds of the future. Yes, your future, your grandchildren's future, your best friends kid's future...THIS COUNTRY's FUTURE AMERICA.

Kid's need role models to help guide them along, not influenced by being inoculated from witnessing seeing drunk men beat the crap out of each other or by watching people sleeze it up in the ol' '78 Ford 4x4 in the parking lot. And not role model's that are sponsored by Nike, or the NBA or whathaveyou...isn't there enough of that total absorbtion from television? and the radio? and video games?

Role model's like Martin Luther King, Jr. (who's commemorative day is on this upcoming Monday, 01-18-04), or Jesus, or George Washington, or Superman for crying out loud! or wait...here's a good one - like parents. Remember whom those people are? Well, not all of them are good role models, but that's why there should be more teen youth centers across the country.

Of course you can open a club, but do it for adults and do it responsibly. If don't have the intensions or INTEGRITY to do it right, then save yourself the aggrevation, lawsuits, and jail-time
and split half of the money to everyone on this board and let me kick you square in the nuts. It's a much quicker punishment for being irresponsible and a wiser investment. Yeah, investment...there's a bunch of incredibly talented and knowledgable people on this board that could take a mil and turn it 5 fold in the matter of a year - in some cases.

I'm not even sure if I want to read a response from you, Crax

[The Event Guy]

:mad: I just went on a posting rant because of this topic.:mad:

[crax]

Originally posted by del hedgepath
Crax, you are full of Crax.
How in two weeks can you purchase the proeprty, have construction drawings ready for city permits, hire contractor, have material delivered and start construction. At a minuim this would be a 5 month process. Besides this site is for adults that are involved in an adult bussiness (clubs) and if you want to have 15 year olds for customners you should go elsewhere. (and take your fog machine with you)! Good luck But I believe you are full of it!

My Uncles is a architech...I've been doing this for about 2 years, i asked alot of locals on the design some liked it, some didnt so they made good changes. In April 2003 we hired constructors and now they are just starting on the ground, I talk to my uncle daily on different interior ideas and he keeps working hard.

The city likes the idea, The club grounds and a story was on the front page of the local newspaper.

That being said, Im sure you were/are a bunch of loser,fat,left-out teens which is why a club doesnt sound good. Sorry, We are different so go grab a burger, sit down, and listen to my last post.

We have started ordering our arcade machines, but it looks like we will be spending alot more then we expected on it. The right side of the club will feature a 'Cafe'. The left side is the arcade, The Middle is the dance floor which is surrounded by tables lifted 1ft from the ground, The entrance has a lobby. The back of the DJ has a party room. Which is designed for 0-110 people birthday partys which is like a Mini-Club.

Enjoy your club with 1 strobe light and 1 disco ball. We have spent thousands(a little over 30,000) on our lighting.

[The Event Guy]

when you do not know what you are doing.

You're missing the points that people are making to your "less than par" remarks. How are we to take you seriously?How much life experience do you have? -seriously.

Crax, the way you describe your town sounds like they're game for anything that brings in millions in tax revenue. Did you even read my last post? Don't you have any rebutle to my points?

And in that sense, I, along with others find it difficult to take you serious.

You came to this board asking for advice and because you don't like what members are posting, you start name calling. Explain yourself. Don't open a door and expect a magic box of knowledge to open because you've inherited money. The members of this board understand that starting and responding to topics of any nature is taken with a grain of salt. You understand what that means? :(

If you expected resonable responses, then I think you've gotten them considering the nature of your questioning/responses.

[The Event Guy]

Keep plugging away RoJo;)

[BCreten]

I hope you all agree when I say that this post needs to be done with! It's pretty apparent to me that Crax is full of it! It's also pretty apparent that he is a kid.... That's why he's never been into a club/bar. That's why he wants 15 year old kids in his club..
That's why he thinks 15 year olds would be mature enough... That's why the first thing he bought with his money was lights and fog machines....

I would just go ahead and suggest that everyone leave this post alone so that it can be filed in the very back pages of this forum where it belongs! I for one am sick of reading it allbeit I dont have to, I just cant stop myself from wanting to see what retarted thing he will come up with next!

Let's all just leave this one alone and let it die!

Crax, study real hard, do your homework... becuase 7th grade is much harder!

[SHOTSKI'S]

Wooo,
Event Guy- What a speech, sermon, & 'rant' filled with truth!
I was watching George Bush making a pretty inspirational speech on CNN until I started reading your first rant. I don't remember a thing HE said now.
Well stated accross the board.

[The Event Guy]

we're in the process of making a big update since we've changed the logo and moved to a bigger facility , but thank you...

[doppelganger]

That's where it comes from.

Spectacular post, Event Guy.

Crax, Arcade? That's easier. Nightclubs are primarily adult zones. Kids are growing up too quickly. Buy some real-estate for an adult club now and sit on it for 10 years. The rest may just fall into place

[ministry]

:D ok i'll come for $34.76 a week!

[jorpak]

Man, are you for real?
A club for 15 yr. olds?
Where's the business sense in this? You have to look at it from a business point of view, if not, why don't you just throw a party.
Man, This is so humorous.

Crax: do yourself a favor, and nobody is being disrespectful here, but don't throw away your money.
Why don't you do what everybody is saying, work first in a bar-nightclub. How can you tell if you even like working at one?
I guess you should investigate more on your venue and try opening a sports facility with arcade games, batting cages, vending machines, minature golf. There you could make big bucks and have 15 and 10 yr.olds.
If still want to do it, call me, I have a group of investors and have opened 4 bars in Mexico City, where the scene is pretty hot. (And not exactly as in FLAMES, if you know what I mean). I have a serious project under way in downtown San Diego if you're interested. Maybe you would like to join our pool of investors. I'll even let you handle som interesting posts at the bar, provided that you learn first.
Well, good luck, and in case you're interested, my name is Juan Pasalagua and my email is jmpasalagua@yahoo.com

[eddiemullan]

I wasn't going to post, me only being a "college kid" an' all.. but sure, why not?


Enjoy your club with 1 strobe light and 1 disco ball. We have spent thousands(a little over 30,000) on our lighting.

I operated lights in different clubs a few years back. one such club probably spent that amount on a lighting rig which constently broke down. It was able to move postion from the roof down above peoples heads on the dancefloor. looked fantastic and created great atmosphere with smoke machine (ho ho)

one night it stopped moving and then slowly started falling towards the punters heads (whoops) no one was hurt thankfully.

just a warning that the bigger and more advanced the lighting system, the more can (and will) go wrong with it.

[shine]

where are you planning to open this club at

[shine]

where are you planning to open this club at

[hardcoreearth]

I will tell you that if you are serious about openning a club and believe because you have 1 million dollars that it will be successful you are not only wasting your money but your are risking losing it. To be successful is not an accident, it takes some serious thought and research and you had better be willing to put in a lot of time and effort or you will not reap any benefits. If you really want to know the right from wrong, how about attending the next Beverage and Food Trade Show in Las Vegas and talk to some of the many experts who will be there. You should, at the minimum, do some hard research and determine what it takes to run a business. Even though you can hire people to manage your money, you need to know for yourself what they are doing with it. If you don't, how will you be sure if your money is being handled correctly. This is a very small part of what you need to know just to fomulate a plan to open a club. If you are serious about openning one then you had better be serious about learning how to open one. That 1 million dollars can go pretty quick with bad business decisions.

[steffen]

I just have a side note...

OK - I've been out for 3 weeks, and now that I'm back, this post is still active??!!?? From reading the posts, it seems that the same advice is being given... and someone is not listening.

[The Event Guy]

Why? Oh, LORD! Why are people still responding to this rediculous post????:eek:

[David]

Steffen, I didn't even know that you were missing!

[Shock G]

Sorry to keep this thread going but crax can't be real? It has to be one of us just keeping it interesting right?

[Securitygeek]

I don't know if this guy is for real or not, but if he is good lord, he needs to hire me. I need the money and if he thinks 15 year olds are going to act mature when 30 somethings don't he really needs to hire me and let me hire his security staff. I can see the headlines now: "Bouncers at local Night Club Kill 15 year old for being stupid." Scary thought.

Crax, if your interested in hiring security, let me know.

[BigMo_Atlanta]

What about security plans? You will not last long without a well thought out security plan, esp. if you plann on allowing underage inside of the club...

[snow]

Here are some possible names for your club that stick with your theme if you still need one. You will have to check if any of these names are being used but I don't think the majority are.
SIZZLE....5 ALARM........HUMIDITY.......ERUPTION....LAVA LOUNGE......BOILING POINT....BY the way wish you all the luck because the way life works out you will probably have this in your favor and make it work. While the people who are struggling to make it work the right way, have the hardest times.

[makato]

Sorry Lava Lounge was used in baltimore.

http://www.jasonpoling.com

[ministry]

why won't this thing die !

[advancemellc]

sounds like you have the money! If not, I have a company called AdvanceMe Inc that provides up to $125,000 in working capital , ONCE the business is opened. I can be reached at advancemellc@aol.com for more info

[ChukTableTapper]

If you are serious about opening a club, you should look at this website www.tabletappers.com. This is the newest thing to hit the bar sceen and I'm sure your club would benefit by it as well.

[Andrew]

ChukTableTapper,

A bartender can speak to a patron to roughly assess his level of intoxication but this device cannot.

How do you prevent over consumption?

[estrenc]

This is obviously a total wind up!!!!
Come on guys get real......................... I know some people call the Americans guilable, but this really takes the biscuit!!!!!
Makes amusing reading though. Well done for keeping it going!!!!

[David]

Isn't it funny how the most obscure post on the site gets so many replies!

[G-Dog]

New to the board and i hope the originator is not gone.

If you have 500,000 to blow on a bar DO IT!!!! To heck with everyone else. Plan on it lasting about 6-12 months and have a blast.

please understand this will be the most expensive year of your life but it will be one great party. Hopefully by now you have used some of your nest egg to visit Vegas, New York or at least Dallas and see what goes on inside.

GOOD LUCK

CALL ME AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU ENJOYED IT.
:cool:

[Vysniukas]

Hi there Crax,

I'm new in intrapreneurship too, but now I am doin some researches in Bradford, UK. Found quite nice night club which is being sold by owner, because of family pressures. I can give you link: http://secure.businessesforsale.com/uk/Successful-Established-Nightclub-in-Citycentre-For-Sale.aspx
Have a look at it, and if you would like to back up my idea, please let me know.

Kind Regards

Don

[teenclub]

how about BURN or Fyre?

I agree - flame is....lame..or gay at best.

there are these CO2 cannons that shoot out a massive amount of COOOLD smoke onto the dancefloor

I saw it at one of the ncb shows. IT is like a huge cloud of smoke...and anyone on the dancefloor gets immediately cooled off....they also have a cannon that shoots out confetti

since you already have the pit...foam, confetti, smoke, bubbles an co2----you can mix it up so it doesnt get old

also try using unique structures with water that have red lights shinining through....you could create some cool lava effects

also you can buy from theatre shops rock simulation and those "torches" for the walls, almost give it an under the earth feel

thats off top of my head...call me sometime and I can tell you some of the cool stuff I have seen around

Mr Moe
727-417-6838

Regardless...you are doing the right thing by learning as much as you can, and briinging on experienced people...don't let others discourage your dreams....but still be wise with your money.

I know a guy out in texas that may be able to help you out with some stuff too if you need.

[futureclubowner]

i'm have a business plan written all except the financial part, the most important part. where can i get realistic information on the financial aspects of opening a nightclub? i know it depends on a number of things like what is being offered, size of the club etc. but i don't know where to get this information or a relative idea about it.